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Celebrities Know What's Best for us(Sheen, Reiner can do our thinking for us)
Los Angeles Daily News | November 25, 2001 | Chris J. Parker

Posted on 11/25/2001 12:28:47 PM PST by Mark

Sunday, November 25, 2001

Sheen, Reiner can do our thinking for us

By Chris J. Parker

The president says that Ahmanson Ranch shouldn't be built. Who are we to disagree?

No, it wasn't President George W. Bush. He's too busy redeveloping the Afghan landscape to worry about a housing tract in east Ventura County, even if it is a big one: 3,050 homes, two golf courses and 400,000 square feet of commercial and office space on 2,800 acres.

No, the other president -- President Josiah Bartlet of "The West Wing," aka Martin Sheen -- recently announced his opposition to building houses, golf courses and other tools of capitalism in the hillsides north of Calabasas.

Sheen was joined at the press conference by actor-director Rob Reiner, another noted Hollywood expert on urban planning. Reiner also is the one who convinced Californians that we don't know how to teach our children well, especially about the dangers of tobacco. So now his group collects $700 million annually from smokers to tell us how to handle early childhood development.

Once again I ask, who are we to disagree?

After all, we are just the simpletons of west Los Angeles County and Ventura County.

We're not Hollywood celebrities. We're not smart enough to build much-needed housing along the Ventura Freeway corridor, they tell us. We don't know how to manage our community.

It's not their community, by the way: Sheen lives in Malibu, Reiner in Beverly Hills. But I digress.

No, we must be wrong and they must be right. After all, they're celebrities.

And if Reiner and Sheen think it's more important to march on a bank branch to protest a housing tract a dozen miles away than it is to help our government in the fight against terrorism, who are we to stand in the way of their photo op?

But don't they have anything better to do? Isn't there a sandbar in Santa Monica they can rally against? Isn't there an awards show somewhere?

There is a war going on, and the president has asked Hollywood's help. But celebrities have been reluctant to pitch in, wrestling with their politically correct morality that assumes we must be wrong because we're firing a gun.

Housing tracts aren't morally challenging to Hollywood. (The good news for celebrities is the houses don't shoot back.)

Reiner and Sheen are two of the most reliable activists in Hollywood. If there's a politically correct thought to be protected, they'll be there as soon as the camera lights turn on.

What Reiner and Sheen fail to realize this time is that their celebrity won't help. Yes, their celebrity draws attention to the Ahmanson Ranch. But what is obvious to level-minded people (and by that I mean, non-celebrities) is that Ahmanson Ranch is an appropriate project that addresses many of the needs of our community.

As is typical of these drive-by celebrity moments, the criticisms don't match the facts.

Critics say the Ahmanson Ranch project will be bad for the environment, pollute local streams and add smog to our air. In fact, the property's owner -- Washington Mutual -- is spending millions of dollars to protect two rare species found on the site and will protect the Malibu Creek watershed from any pollution runoff. The company will even plant five oak trees for every one oak tree lost during construction.

As for an increase in smog: Yes, houses have a funny way of attracting cars. But the fact of the matter is there's a critical need for more housing in the area. Anyone who has driven on the Ventura Freeway has seen the enormous growth of one of the nation's top tech regions: The 101 Corridor, which stretches from Warner Center in the east to Camarillo in the west.

Housing construction hasn't kept up with the job growth. So there's a good chance that many of those people who commute to jobs in Calabasas, Agoura Hills and Thousand Oaks will move to Ahmanson Ranch, potentially cutting down on their commute time and improving the region's air in the process.

Critics also say Washington Mutual is getting a sweetheart deal. But Ahmanson Ranch is the culmination of years of negotiation, not the start. When Ventura County first approved the project, 10,000 acres in or near the Santa Monica Mountains were transferred into the public's hands to be preserved as permanent open space.

Did Reiner and Sheen say something about affordable housing? Of course they did.

They said that the development doesn't have enough. Yet, with 25 percent of the homes being slated for affordable housing, Ahmanson Ranch will be a lot more accessible than, say, Beverly Hills and Malibu.

But who are we to disagree? We just live here.

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Chris J. Parker lives in Camarillo. He is a former city editor for the Daily News.


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Two different titles to article. Newspaper: Celebrities know what's best for us. Online: Sheen, Reiner can do our thinking for us.

This is a local issue, but involves liberal elites.

1 posted on 11/25/2001 12:28:47 PM PST by Mark
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To: Mark
Also, the first paragraph was accidentally left off of the online version.
2 posted on 11/25/2001 12:32:45 PM PST by Mark
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To: Mark
It's too bad that most American think celebrity = intelligence. It ain't so.
3 posted on 11/25/2001 12:32:49 PM PST by WhatPriceFreedom?
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To: WhatPriceFreedom?
"Ah, rock stars! Is there anything they DON'T know?"

-- Homer Simpson

4 posted on 11/25/2001 12:34:58 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Mark
iF YOU HAVE EVER MET A CELEB FROM HOLLYWOOD, YOU WOULD FIND THEY ARE THE WEIRDEST FREAKS WALKING. THEY HAVE NO OPINIONS OF THEIR OWN AND SPEW SOME COMMIES DIALOGUE JUST LIKE THEY DO IN THEIR PLAYS.

TO QUOTE ONE OF THESE MINDLESS DOLTS IS TO QUOTE SOMEONES ELSES SCRIPT.

5 posted on 11/25/2001 12:36:34 PM PST by conway
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To: Mark
Sheen also has stuck his nose into a conflict regarding a waste incinerator in eastern Ohio, contributing his considerable expertise as an engineer and environmental expert. As long as he limits his complaining to the left coast, that's fine with me.
6 posted on 11/25/2001 12:40:19 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Mark
What particularly irks me about Martin Sheen is that his character is named after one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. The real Josiah Bartlett is probably doing whirligigs in his grave.
7 posted on 11/25/2001 12:51:28 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
"The Vision of the Anointed" by Thomas Sowell suddenly comes to mind.
8 posted on 11/25/2001 12:56:10 PM PST by Mark
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To: Mark
Celebs don't even know who THEY really are . All they do is play roles of being other people. I am amazed at the amount of $$ is paid for being such a plastic person .
9 posted on 11/25/2001 12:56:14 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Mark

10 posted on 11/25/2001 12:58:03 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Mark
And it's not just the West Wing celebs that always get it wrong! Robt. Redford got the full liberal coverage today in the widely circulated (with the Sunday newspapers) Parade Magazine. This idiot continues to believe that humans are destroying the "sacred earth" and he supports any actions to stop Bush and build the environmentalist's weird agendas.

Message: avoid his latest movie too. Redford is a bad word out west and deserves it. We'd prefer he live in the red zone of NY where he can enjoy the company of the Felon and Her Heinous.

11 posted on 11/25/2001 12:58:25 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Mark
What is funny about this whole situation is that of course Sheen and Reiner supported Clintoon's boy Bruce Babbitt when he was working for Clintoon. Now he's been hired by Washington Mutual because he knows all the ins and outs of the envirowhackies. I guess Babbitt's own environmental interests must be like Redford's, i.e., not important if he can turn a buck for himself.

I believe in the project; just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of the left and how they will eat their own for self-enrichment.

12 posted on 11/25/2001 1:01:42 PM PST by angry elephant
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To: glock rocks
good pix. Martin Sheen PLAYS the president on a lefty wet dream television serial, and he cynically uses this artificial clout to spew his little socialist agendas of the day. Lest we forget, he joined the Gore telemarketing campaign just before last years election.

Here's the scary part: many Americans are so addicted to TV that they are unclear as to why Sheen is NOT the actual President of the United States. Think this insane? When's the last time you spoke to a true fan of this horribly predictable TV show?

Hollywood is smug, they think they have America eating out of its hand ideologically.

Never underestimate Hollywood's deep cynicism.

13 posted on 11/25/2001 1:14:00 PM PST by moodyskeptic
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To: WhatPriceFreedom?
It's too bad that most American think celebrity = intelligence. It ain't so.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as most Americans. Most liberals, maybe. But, isn't "intelligent liberal" an oxymoron?

14 posted on 11/25/2001 1:22:12 PM PST by Exigence
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To: moodyskeptic
Also, somwhere in Kalifornia, I forget the details; but the government body held a moment of silence because the character, not the actor, died off on West Wing. It was posted on FreeRepublic.
15 posted on 11/25/2001 1:22:43 PM PST by Mark
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Re Reiner and Sheen and the Ahmanson Ranch project outside of Los Angeles: Normally, I would agree with you completely, and I DO so far as interference from these two yahoos is concerned. However, as one who has lived more than 20 years next to the Ventura Freeway just a few miles from the site, I can tell you that this access road is bumper to bumper with traffic all day and night, and will be horribly impacted by MORE from the Ahmanson project. In addition, the project requires more chopping up and grading of once-lovely rolling hills and the destruction of many more of our indigenous oak trees. I'm not an "environmentalist" by any means, but the project stinks. There have been literally hundreds of regular folks who've been up in arms about this mess for YEARS. All of a sudden we have Sheen and Reiner butting in. THAT's the part of it that I can't stand. If it were, indeed, their neighborhood at stake, fine. But it is most certainly NOT the neighborhood of either of them! Just more blathering from these buttinski Hollywood bigmouths. The idea that they think somehow THEY, with their perceived "clout" will change things galls me more than a little. Go home boys -- when there's trouble in Malibu or Bev. Hills, we'll call ya.
16 posted on 11/25/2001 1:23:31 PM PST by Califreeper
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To: Mark
Considering the Orca that Blob Whiner turned out to be, he really shouldn't be lecturing people about what is bad for their health and calling for restraint.

Funny how his Meathead role stuck with him after All In The Family.

17 posted on 11/25/2001 1:30:07 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Mark
Well Mr. Sheen, that fact is our state is growing at an alarming rate. The people have to live somewhere. Where would you suggest new building take place? I don't see you asking our federal government to stop the flow of millions of illegal immigrants per year. Where do you expect them to live, in a pup-tent by a stream?

Obviously they aren't going to by buying the new homes, but they are grooping together to buy up some of the one's others are leaving to live in those new homes.

How about thinking before you open that yap the next time. Perhaps you'd consider protesting the causes for new homes being built if you use 1/100th of that brain of yours.

18 posted on 11/25/2001 1:31:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Mark
moment of silence post

I hear that RATS are cracking open there televisions to invite the little people over for wine and cheese.

19 posted on 11/25/2001 1:35:07 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: Mark
Sheen was joined at the press conference by actor-director Rob Reiner, another noted Hollywood expert on urban planning.

They issued a joint statement declaring "All your snail-darters are belong to us." By the way, Reiner wrote the section on 'nutrition' in the booklet, financed by the seven million dollars they stole from citizens who use a legal product (tobacco), that they distributed to parents to teach them the proper way to raise their children.

To summarize ... one of the biggest fat asses on earth wrote a guide to proper nutrition on a typewriter he keeps in his mansion ... the same fat ass emerges from his mansion to council the little people on the subject of 'affordable housing'. (HeHeHeHe) It's too funny!

20 posted on 11/25/2001 1:41:06 PM PST by layman
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